Start-up, Scale-up, Grow-up

Most SaaS technical founders struggling with revenue growth don’t have a sales problem or a product problem; they have a fundamental listening problem that costs them months of runway. 

Richard Blundell scaled Message Labs from zero to £150M ARR and exited for £800M. In this week’s SaaSGenius Podcast episode with host Aurelie, he reveals why hiring salespeople before you generate overwhelming inbound demand typically wastes £500K in burned capital, how Message Labs achieved hypergrowth almost entirely through strategic channel partnerships instead of traditional sales teams, and the three distinct go-to-market strategies with radically different speed-to-market timelines that most founders don’t even know exist.

For SaaS founders questioning why their technically superior product isn’t converting qualified prospects, or those debating when to make their first commercial hire, this conversation delivers the operational insights that separate successful exits from expensive failures.

Key insights you’ll discover:

  • Why “leads before sales” could save you from a £500K hiring disaster.
  • The three GTM strategies founders choose between (and which one gets you to market fastest).
  • How to spot when you’re solving a problem nobody actually has.

The £1.8M Value Proposition Wake-Up Call

What happens when you spend £1.8M selling the wrong part of your product?

Richard and his co-founders secured £1.8M during the dot-com boom for Fourth Contact, building what they believed was revolutionary: beautifully branded online employee benefit statements. 

The technology performed flawlessly. The sales pitch was polished. Yet six months in, they were burning through the runway with minimal traction, unable to understand why their product wasn’t converting.

The breakthrough came during a routine lunch with their Volkswagen Group pilot customer. The HR director delivered feedback that would reshape their entire strategy: “I’ve always wondered why you sell your product the wrong way round.”

The visual statements anchoring their positioning were “quite cool”—a polite way of saying nice-to-have. But the benefits administration engine they’d buried in the backend and treated as infrastructure was the actual transformation. This overlooked feature had compressed a process requiring three employees over three days into a workflow that one person could complete in under three hours.

Richard dropped his knife and fork as the implications crystallized. They’d evangelized what they found technically impressive rather than what customers desperately needed to solve an expensive operational bottleneck.

Within weeks, they inverted their entire value proposition—repositioning the administration engine as their core offering while the visual layer became a complimentary enhancement. The market response was immediate. Warner Brothers, Disney, London Stock Exchange, and dozens of enterprise clients followed, validating what their customer had been signaling from day one.

The lesson technical founders miss: Your customers don’t buy your genius. They buy the solution to their most expensive headache.

Three Routes to Market (And Why Sales-Driven Is Actually the Slowest)

Most impatient founders default to the same playbook: raise money, hire SDRs, blast outbound emails, and pray for a pipeline. Richard calls this the “sales-driven” route, and it’s often the wrong choice for early-stage technical founders.

The three strategic paths:

StrategySpeed to MarketControl LevelBest For
Sales-DrivenSlowest (12-18 months)HighestEstablished product-market fit, clear buyer persona
Marketing-DrivenFast (3-6 months)MediumStrong domain expertise, willingness to create content
Channel-DrivenFastest (immediate)LowestProducts that enhance existing platforms

Message Labs scaled to £150M ARR almost entirely through channel partnerships, embedding their antivirus scanning into other enterprise software. No massive sales team required. For technical founders who hate selling, the marketing-driven approach offers a faster alternative: become the loudest voice solving your audience’s specific pain. Stand on that metaphorical hill with a giant flag saying “I know your problem, and I can fix it.”

The critical mistake is hiring salespeople before you have more inbound demand than you can handle. As Richard puts it: “If your value prop’s wrong, your message is wrong, you haven’t got a market map—those salespeople are going to fall over.”

The Startup-to-Grownup Transition That Breaks Most Founders

The moment institutional capital arrives, your organizational dynamics fundamentally shift. That tight-knit team of six operating from a shared workspace, united by near-death experiences and collective victories, faces inevitable dilution as you professionalize operations.

Richard’s warning is stark: you can’t be kids anymore. Board meetings become formal. Monthly board packs consume your time (negotiate for quarterly meetings from day one). HR moves from “a page in a filing cabinet” to employment law compliance, DE&I policies, and fractional HR leadership. Your CRM data needs to actually work. Your finance system graduates from small to something enterprise-grade.

The cultural fracture manifests most acutely when organizational hierarchy emerges between founding team members, reporting structures crystallize, and new employees view your survival stories as irrelevant history rather than formative mythology. The shared context that bonded your original team simply doesn’t translate to employees who joined after product-market fit.

Richard survived this transition at Message Labs partly through luck—they sold to Symantec for £800M the day before Lehman Brothers collapsed—but mostly through recognizing when to bring in experienced operators. His advice for technical founders mirrors what he learned the hard way: “Do not be lonely. Do not make it up. Find someone who knows, because it will save you millions.”

The loneliness of being CEO: Richard remembers his first day in the role, shutting his office door and shaking, thinking “When are they going to realize I haven’t got a clue?” The solution wasn’t pretending. It was finding a mentor who’d navigated that storm before.

Listen to discover:

  • The “usage vs. value” grid that reveals which product features actually matter to customers.
  • Why Richard says “I can’t see any business gambling their future on AI” for buying decisions.
  • The exact moment to transition from founder-led sales to hiring your first team.
  • How Message Labs closed a £800M exit literally hours before the 2008 financial crash.

Key moments of this podcast

[00:01:55] How one friend’s push launched a 25-year partnership

[00:03:50] The lunch that revealed six months of selling the wrong feature

[00:13:06] Why founders who can’t explain their value in one sentence fail

[00:20:00] The moment founder culture dies and why quarterly boards matter

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